Wednesday, January 4, 2012

Preparing Hachiya Persimmons

Ripe Persimmon Split in Half
Perfectly Ripe Hachiya  Persimmon

Instructions by Robin

While house-hunting a couple of winters ago, I remarked on the brightly colored Fuyu persimmons that our realtor had around his office as decorations—or so I thought. “Would you like some?” he asked and when I said yes quickly swept up as many as I could carry and handed them to me. They were from his tree at home, and as a former owner of two Hachiya persimmon trees I understand his haste to give them away. Persimmons are a most misunderstood fruit, unlike apples or lemons, which are more popular giveways because recipients know what to do with them.

Hachiya persimmons are a particularly hard sell, because until they are ripe, they contain tannins, which make them taste bitter and astringent. When ripe, they are sweet and delicious, but jelly-soft, a texture that is off-putting to many, but makes excellent jam. Ripening itself is a tricky process, and it’s possible to have a very soft persimmon that still tastes astringent. One experience with such fruit has discouraged many from having anything to do with persimmons.

Still, those of us with persimmon trees learn how to use them, and when I moved to another house I missed my persimmon winter ritual. So I called up our realtor, who happens to have both Fuyu and Hachiya persimmon trees. He was extremely happy to drop off a large box of rock-hard Hachiyas, which I’ve had ripening on my front porch for about 3 weeks. The Hachiya season is late this year--usually I make persimmon treats for Christmas, but I am just now getting a ripe quorum for baking.

Five Ripe Persimmons
Perfectly Ripe Persimmons
Ripening Hachiya Persimmons

Ripening Hachiyas is almost an art, and my friend Carol Sue (another persimmon tree owner) showed me how she ripens them outdoors, in an area protected from rain, with plenty of air circulation. It’s okay if temperatures dip below freezing at night, in fact this breaks down the cell walls, which aids in reducing astringency (technically changing tannins from soluble to insoluble). Light also aids this process, as does ethylene gas. Some people ripen persimmons in a plastic bag with an apple or banana (both produce ethylene), but I prefer a slow ripening process at a cool temperature, which seems to more uniformly reduce astringency.

A cardboard box (my realtor’s idea) works well as a container, and hard persimmons can be piled up in 2 or 3 layers. Check them every day, and move the softer ones (most likely on the bottom) to the top. When a persimmon is ripe enough to “give” when you pick it up, it is likely not ripe throughout. Often the stem end or one of the sides still has the soluble tannins and is slightly hard. You won’t want to eat that before further ripening, so isolate the softer persimmon with others of similar softness, such that they are not in contact with one another. I use plastic storage containers, without lids so air can circulate. I also set them so their calyx (stem) end is down.

Demo of Brown Flesh
Brownish Fruit Flesh (center) is Okay to Eat...
Hachiyas are susceptible to molds, so especially in wet years. Check containers of softer persimmons for mold every day, and keep them in a light and dry area. Keeping the riper persimmons from physically contacting one another also helps prevent mold. Black on the skins is just pigmentation from the sun; the molds are green.

The Ripe Hachiya

So, how do you tell when your Hachiya is ripe? The skin will look uniformly colored deep orange and almost translucent, from calyx (stem) end to tip. It will feel soft and heavy in your hand and you will need to handle it gently to keep from breaking the skin. 

Demo of Discolored Core
...But Discard Discolored Central Core
The final test, once you observe all these signs, is to taste the Hachiya. This is especially important if you are amassing a large number of persimmons, for example to make jam. One bitter persimmon in the jam mix will add a slight but unpleasant astringent taste to the entire batch, and elicit comments about “why I don’t eat persimmons.”

The area by the calyx usually ripens last and is most likely to taste astringent, so cut a little slice there to try (see method below). Beware of yellow, hard, unripe looking areas, although these do not always taste astringent, so taste a bit before rejecting them. If these areas are bitter, it’s safest to reject the entire persimmon, except perhaps the very tip—in any case don’t save any areas that you haven’t tasted and found sweet.

Spoon Scooping Out Persimmon Half
Scoop Out Halves with Spoon
Preparing Persimmons for Cooking or Eating

A word of warning that I haven't read anywhere else: although persimmon pulp looks as innocuous as pumpkin, it can stain clothing. Wearing short sleeves or an old shirt is a good idea. If you see any orange on your clothes, wash it out before it dries to prevent staining.

Each large persimmon will equal about 1/3 cup. Pull the calyx off the top, and slice the persimmon in half from top to bottom. Some people slice off the bottom ½ inch or so, to get rid of the tiny seeds. I usually do this only if I’m making jam.

Use a spoon to scoop out the flesh and scrape off and discard the skin.

Spoon Scraping Fruit from Skin
Scrape off Skin with Spoon
Taste the persimmon, near the calyx end preferably. Does it taste perfectly sweet? If so, put it in a storage container and refrigerate along with others if you’re not using it right away. Does it taste slightly astringent? Either discard it or cut off the bottom half and taste that (discard the top). If that tastes sweet with absolutely no bitterness, eat it, add it to the storage container or use it in your cooking project.

Knife Removing Persimmon Seeds
Remove Seeds if You Prefer
Despite my dislike of wasting food, if there is any question about the bitterness, I will either discard the persimmon, or put the flesh in a separate container in the fridge and hope that it will ripen and sweeten completely (and maybe even freeze it for a few hours). Sometimes they do, and sometimes they don’t.

I hope I haven’t discouraged you from trying the Hachiyas with all my talk of bitterness. The majority ripen to sweet perfection. Since I’ve also used those few that aren’t quite right, with not-right results, I’m hoping you can benefit from my detailed evaluation process, and learn from my mistakes.

Recipes will follow!


  1. Love this article! I don't think you went overboard at all on the bitterness as that could ruin the whole persimmon experience forever! But when they are ripe, they are delicious! Have you ever tried mixing with yogurt or putting over ice cream? mmmmmm

  2. Thanks, JSIG, glad I didn't overstate the bitterness thing. You're right, a little bitterness can ruin the experience...especially sad if you've gone to the work to make jam with them...speaking from experience! I have not tried them with yogurt or ice cream, and this sounds YUM! 'Tis the season, so I'll get to that asap!

  3. I love this article, too! I just bought my first two hachiyas persimmons today, before checking how to know when they are ripe or what to do with them. It was my adventure food purchase! Quite an adventure I've gotten for myself it seems. I was thinking of adding one my morning smoothie. It sounds like that would work, yes?

  4. Lynne, using them in a smoothie sounds amazing. Feel free to let us know what fruit combination you come up with!

  5. Thank you so much for this. After much time invested in researching on how to make persimmon jam, you seem to be the only one that fully respects this fruit and teaches how to really make the best of them. thank you thank you thank you!!

  6. All that being said, the absolute best use of the Hachiya is for cookies! I make from 30 to 40 dozen using an old family recipe handed down over the years. I distribute them around Christmas to family and friends who love them. I think if I didn't make cookies one year they all would disown me. A really great fruit.

  7. Thanks so much for this article! We've been renting a house for 5 years that has an old persimmon tree. I try to use them every year, but they are one finicky fruit!! This year I finally tried picking a bunch and letting them sit in an old crate. They are ripening really well in there! I'm glad to find your website. What do I do with these delicious, but kind of mushy, fruit?

    1. I have several recipes on my blog, click on "Persimmon" on right menu, or put "Persimmon" into the search box above right. Some readers have also suggested using them in smoothies--yum!

  8. Are these seeds actually viable? Theyre smaller than the others Ive seen. I bought a honey persimmon and my seeds look like yours. Im going to try germinate them but I dont have much hope lol.

    1. Please let us know if they germinate, Suzanne. You never can tell till you try it. :)

  9. just a not that what is in the picture are not seeds. Persimmon seeds are almost an inch long, brown, polished-look and hard :)

  10. I've never peeled mine. I cut them up skin & all and eat with vanilla ice cream and a sprinkling of chopped nuts. Probably no need to peel unless one is making jam or bread. My biggest problem is mold growing where birds have made a hole in the skin--so frustrating.